I think like most Trades feel, there just doesn't seem to be enough hours in the day and you need to have a thousand hats on. It’s hectic. It's a good feeling when you've got loads of work, but it can very soon get out of control. And then there’s the marketing side. When I started my decorating business, you didn't have to do as much on your brand and marketing. But now it's really important to keep your marketing for your Trades business up to date. Everything I got from Marshmallow was really simple to understand. If you know Marshmallow, they are a lot like Trades people. They're quite direct, straight talking and they don't mess around. It was like having your own marketing department as part of your Trades business.